These Ludwig Paiste 3 - Star 13" Hi Hats were Made in Germany. The 3-Star stamp is visible on both cymbals, and both have no key holing. There is a few dents around the edges, but they are almost impossible to see with a camera. These cymbals weight 500g each and have a silver color look. We believe these come from the 1950s. They are light, have a great chick, and are a cool piece of drum history!